anybody bought a radeon 9700 pro yet? - Page 4

Bosw8er · 15th September 2002, 19:40

puttin' it all together
[H]
Big Bugs:
Mr. Johnson directs us to the Rage3D Forums this morning where they are discussing a "glitch" possibly with the latest ATi Catalyst drivers. This one is very worthy of taking notice of.

Apparently, if you have an NTFS partition, an r8500, and XP (not sure about 2k) and enable the windows memory management to optimize 'system cache' rather than 'programs', then data is incorrectly written to the hard disk and lost!

I can confirm that this problem exists as it just happened to me. After a reboot, XP reported that files were being used and lost. I immediately changed this setting back and now am problem free.

I will make sure we bring this to the attention of the ATi Driver team. There is also a pointer back to this MS page on the error that is seen. There are a few theories being batted around and it is not sure where the fault lies yet. Still you might want to back up that NTFS data before you install.

http://www.rage3d.com/board/showthre...eadid=33629552
http://support.microsoft.com/default...;en-us;q293842

Bosw8er · 16th September 2002, 10:15

from : OC'ers com

There's a pretty good chance that EVERY Radeon 9700 card in existence today is likely to have the AGP 8X problem. ATI has apparently made revisions to boards which correct this.

Unless you like to buy broken $350 video cards (in which case, you need help), until ATI publicly says what is or isn't wrong with these cards, what they're going to do about it, and what happens to all the inventory out there, don't buy it.

And if you like to tell people to buy what could well be broken stuff . . . you need help, too.

Update: The ATI webpage on this issue, and the place where they'll announce updates is here.

http://www.overclockers.com/tips00114/
http://mirror.ati.com/support/infobase/4080.html

DUR0N · 2nd November 2002, 20:18

/DUR0N joins the broken r9700pro club.
sucker wouldn't run 3dmark2001 nor ut2K3
one of the ram sinks fell of...
putted ramsink back on, the glue was still sticky
tried it again on another system: would barely run under windows (sloppy, some weard pixels)
reboot
thadaa! blue green red pink colours all over the place.
took it out of the AGP slot and back in.
worked well until windows XP startup screen, then 3 white pixels on the screen, no more, no less

broken

RichBa5tard · 2nd November 2002, 23:36

Damn, I thought the cards that are currently being sold had a better quality control than the first batch.

By the way, are you going to couple that R9700 with a duron? Nice overkill

DUR0N · 3rd November 2002, 21:52

i'm trying to get 12.5k with a duron cpu, so i have the fastest duron on earth.
the cpu is capable (getting a swiftech watterblock with internal 226w peltier + black ice 2 ) and it's already running at 1455 (171x8.5) @1,85V. with a voltmod i think 1500mhz at a high FSB should be possible (getting new ram)
the only real problem is: i need the radeon 9700pro. The ones used already are property of colorcase.be. They were ordered by customers, but with the many problems of the card, i can test all cards that will be sold

But i can't overclock them

If someone would borrow me an overclocked r9700pro, the record is mine! (his too

)

RichBa5tard · 4th November 2002, 06:08

171FSB with a duron is impressive! Hope you reach 12.5k

2nd November 2002, 23:36	#34
RichBa5tard [M] Reviewer/HWBot ***** Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 3,344	Damn, I thought the cards that are currently being sold had a better quality control than the first batch. By the way, are you going to couple that R9700 with a duron? Nice overkill __________________ HTPC (mac osx): Mac Mini \| Core Duo 1.6Ghz \| 2GB DDR2 \| 26\" TFT Development (mac osx): Macbook \| Core 2 2.0Ghz \| 4GB DDR2 \| 250GB HD Games (win xp): E2160 @ 2.4Ghz \| HD3850 OC \| Asrock 4coredual-vsta \| 2GB DDR2

3rd November 2002, 21:52	#35
DUR0N Member Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 1,543	i'm trying to get 12.5k with a duron cpu, so i have the fastest duron on earth. the cpu is capable (getting a swiftech watterblock with internal 226w peltier + black ice 2 ) and it's already running at 1455 (171x8.5) @1,85V. with a voltmod i think 1500mhz at a high FSB should be possible (getting new ram) the only real problem is: i need the radeon 9700pro. The ones used already are property of colorcase.be. They were ordered by customers, but with the many problems of the card, i can test all cards that will be sold But i can't overclock them If someone would borrow me an overclocked r9700pro, the record is mine! (his too)

4th November 2002, 06:08	#36
RichBa5tard [M] Reviewer/HWBot ***** Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 3,344	171FSB with a duron is impressive! Hope you reach 12.5k __________________ HTPC (mac osx): Mac Mini \| Core Duo 1.6Ghz \| 2GB DDR2 \| 26\" TFT Development (mac osx): Macbook \| Core 2 2.0Ghz \| 4GB DDR2 \| 250GB HD Games (win xp): E2160 @ 2.4Ghz \| HD3850 OC \| Asrock 4coredual-vsta \| 2GB DDR2

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15th September 2002, 19:40	#31
Bosw8er Member Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 3,711	puttin' it all together [H] Big Bugs: Mr. Johnson directs us to the Rage3D Forums this morning where they are discussing a "glitch" possibly with the latest ATi Catalyst drivers. This one is very worthy of taking notice of. Apparently, if you have an NTFS partition, an r8500, and XP (not sure about 2k) and enable the windows memory management to optimize 'system cache' rather than 'programs', then data is incorrectly written to the hard disk and lost! I can confirm that this problem exists as it just happened to me. After a reboot, XP reported that files were being used and lost. I immediately changed this setting back and now am problem free. I will make sure we bring this to the attention of the ATi Driver team. There is also a pointer back to this MS page on the error that is seen. There are a few theories being batted around and it is not sure where the fault lies yet. Still you might want to back up that NTFS data before you install. http://www.rage3d.com/board/showthre...eadid=33629552 http://support.microsoft.com/default...;en-us;q293842

16th September 2002, 10:15	#32
Bosw8er Member Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 3,711	from : OC'ers com There's a pretty good chance that EVERY Radeon 9700 card in existence today is likely to have the AGP 8X problem. ATI has apparently made revisions to boards which correct this. Unless you like to buy broken $350 video cards (in which case, you need help), until ATI publicly says what is or isn't wrong with these cards, what they're going to do about it, and what happens to all the inventory out there, don't buy it. And if you like to tell people to buy what could well be broken stuff . . . you need help, too. Update: The ATI webpage on this issue, and the place where they'll announce updates is here. http://www.overclockers.com/tips00114/ http://mirror.ati.com/support/infobase/4080.html

2nd November 2002, 20:18	#33
DUR0N Member Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 1,543	/DUR0N joins the broken r9700pro club. sucker wouldn't run 3dmark2001 nor ut2K3 one of the ram sinks fell of... putted ramsink back on, the glue was still sticky tried it again on another system: would barely run under windows (sloppy, some weard pixels) reboot thadaa! blue green red pink colours all over the place. took it out of the AGP slot and back in. worked well until windows XP startup screen, then 3 white pixels on the screen, no more, no less broken