AMD@ 2Ghz vs P4@3.55Ghz: 1-0? - Page 2

24th August 2003, 12:52

3.5 ghz :grum:

That IS exceptionally, no ? I'm stuck @ 3.25ghz, 250mhz fsb (IS7 - pc3200 corsair, SLK900)

RichBa5tard · 24th August 2003, 12:57

3.55Ghz with air & 1.55v is very good indeed, i'm not complaining about the overclocking capability of the chip. I'm complaining that even at 3.55ghz it isn't faster than my xp1800+@ a lousy 2ghz.

I'll try dual channel before i replace the motherboard, but i don't know which one i should replace it with.

200$ for a p4c800 is way more than i want to spend on a motherboard. 150$ max:

- abit is7: 125$
- abit ic7: 150$
- asus p4p800: 125$
- MSI 865PE: 115$
- MSI 875P: 166$
- Gigabyte 875P: 145$

The gigabyte is the cheapest 875P mobo and has 6 instead of 4 memory slots. I was happy with my gigabyte 845PE motherboard, but asus / abit or even msi are probably better for overclocking.

Does anyone know whether the GIGABYTE GA-8IK1100 has any trouble running at 275FSB? I'm not planning to push my 2.6C much higher, because i will need phase change cooling or +1.55v for that.

Are any of the above motherboard a definite yes/no? I need S-ATA (no raid), 5.1 sound and 10/100 Lan. I don't need CSA GBit lan, integrated s-ata raid, firewire, ...

jmke · 24th August 2003, 12:59

try other benchmarkes besides 3dmark, dont fix on 1 item
try different ones.. might just be the software

I know for fact that a P4 @ 3ghz IS faster to work with then an AMD @ 2ghz

RichBa5tard · 24th August 2003, 13:00

Same results with other benchmark apps.

-edit-
I don't want to bash intel, i just want to know what's wrong. We've already established it's too low.

fsb: 273mhz
mp: 13 (=> 3550mhz)
mem div: 4/5
mem: 218mhz
mem timings: 2.5-3-3-6
AGP: 8x
Catalyst: 3.5 i think
R9800: 425/375
Dx: 9
Latest intel chipset drivers

jmke · 24th August 2003, 13:21

is it a clean install, or did you change mobo/cpu and kept the OS install?

RichBa5tard · 24th August 2003, 13:26

clean install on formatted disk. As clean as it can be.

The Senile Doctor · 24th August 2003, 13:29

the fact is that sth is terribly wrong, cuz I have the exact same comparison with a 2ghz (10*200) xp and my gamerig (3.6), same amount of ram, and the difference is catastrophic for the xp.

Gamer · 24th August 2003, 14:02

or it could be your special program "clockgen" that isn't working verry good

jmke · 24th August 2003, 14:22

cool, didn't know about clockgen

http://www.cpuid.com/clockgen.php

Gamer · 24th August 2003, 14:44

Quote:

The new frequency was well applied, but some versions of Windows do not detect the change, that causes some detection and benchmarks program to mistake.

24th August 2003, 12:57	#12
RichBa5tard [M] Reviewer/HWBot ***** Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 3,344	3.55Ghz with air & 1.55v is very good indeed, i'm not complaining about the overclocking capability of the chip. I'm complaining that even at 3.55ghz it isn't faster than my xp1800+@ a lousy 2ghz. I'll try dual channel before i replace the motherboard, but i don't know which one i should replace it with. 200$ for a p4c800 is way more than i want to spend on a motherboard. 150$ max: - abit is7: 125$ - abit ic7: 150$ - asus p4p800: 125$ - MSI 865PE: 115$ - MSI 875P: 166$ - Gigabyte 875P: 145$ The gigabyte is the cheapest 875P mobo and has 6 instead of 4 memory slots. I was happy with my gigabyte 845PE motherboard, but asus / abit or even msi are probably better for overclocking. Does anyone know whether the GIGABYTE GA-8IK1100 has any trouble running at 275FSB? I'm not planning to push my 2.6C much higher, because i will need phase change cooling or +1.55v for that. Are any of the above motherboard a definite yes/no? I need S-ATA (no raid), 5.1 sound and 10/100 Lan. I don't need CSA GBit lan, integrated s-ata raid, firewire, ... __________________ HTPC (mac osx): Mac Mini \| Core Duo 1.6Ghz \| 2GB DDR2 \| 26\" TFT Development (mac osx): Macbook \| Core 2 2.0Ghz \| 4GB DDR2 \| 250GB HD Games (win xp): E2160 @ 2.4Ghz \| HD3850 OC \| Asrock 4coredual-vsta \| 2GB DDR2

24th August 2003, 12:59	#13
jmke Madshrimp Join Date: May 2002 Location: 7090/Belgium Posts: 79,021	try other benchmarkes besides 3dmark, dont fix on 1 item try different ones.. might just be the software I know for fact that a P4 @ 3ghz IS faster to work with then an AMD @ 2ghz __________________

24th August 2003, 13:00	#14
RichBa5tard [M] Reviewer/HWBot ***** Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 3,344	Same results with other benchmark apps. -edit- I don't want to bash intel, i just want to know what's wrong. We've already established it's too low. fsb: 273mhz mp: 13 (=> 3550mhz) mem div: 4/5 mem: 218mhz mem timings: 2.5-3-3-6 AGP: 8x Catalyst: 3.5 i think R9800: 425/375 Dx: 9 Latest intel chipset drivers __________________ HTPC (mac osx): Mac Mini \| Core Duo 1.6Ghz \| 2GB DDR2 \| 26\" TFT Development (mac osx): Macbook \| Core 2 2.0Ghz \| 4GB DDR2 \| 250GB HD Games (win xp): E2160 @ 2.4Ghz \| HD3850 OC \| Asrock 4coredual-vsta \| 2GB DDR2

24th August 2003, 13:21	#15
jmke Madshrimp Join Date: May 2002 Location: 7090/Belgium Posts: 79,021	is it a clean install, or did you change mobo/cpu and kept the OS install? __________________

24th August 2003, 13:26	#16
RichBa5tard [M] Reviewer/HWBot ***** Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 3,344	clean install on formatted disk. As clean as it can be. __________________ HTPC (mac osx): Mac Mini \| Core Duo 1.6Ghz \| 2GB DDR2 \| 26\" TFT Development (mac osx): Macbook \| Core 2 2.0Ghz \| 4GB DDR2 \| 250GB HD Games (win xp): E2160 @ 2.4Ghz \| HD3850 OC \| Asrock 4coredual-vsta \| 2GB DDR2

24th August 2003, 12:52	#11
Magnum_ Posts: n/a	3.5 ghz :grum: That IS exceptionally, no ? I'm stuck @ 3.25ghz, 250mhz fsb (IS7 - pc3200 corsair, SLK900)

24th August 2003, 13:29	#17
The Senile Doctor Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: wherever the doom is Posts: 3,171	the fact is that sth is terribly wrong, cuz I have the exact same comparison with a 2ghz (10*200) xp and my gamerig (3.6), same amount of ram, and the difference is catastrophic for the xp. __________________ OC-2-the-death Where the Reverend is doing his Magick, all mortals be silent Doom over the world

24th August 2003, 14:02	#18
Gamer [M] Reviewer Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 4,587	or it could be your special program "clockgen" that isn't working verry good __________________

24th August 2003, 14:22	#19
jmke Madshrimp Join Date: May 2002 Location: 7090/Belgium Posts: 79,021	cool, didn't know about clockgen http://www.cpuid.com/clockgen.php __________________

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