It appears you have not yet registered with our community. To register please click here...

 
Go Back [M] > For Sale - LAN Parties - Other > Off-Topic Hangout
struggle of US industry struggle of US industry
Register FAQ Members List Calendar Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read


struggle of US industry
Closed Thread
 
Thread Tools
Old 15th August 2006, 02:43   #1
8bit
 
Posts: n/a
struggle of US industry

After watching the Simpson's episode on outsourcing and the constant news about GM's decline, can industry in the US survive long term? With IBM selling out their PC side to Lenovo I have my doubts?


imports



&

domestic

 
Old 17th August 2006, 11:28   #2
SuAside
 
Posts: n/a
Default

the field of focus will have to change. in essence, your economy is one of services anyway, rather than pure industry. your industry will have to see they have to focus on specialisation, innovation & quality, rather than mass production or heavy labor (it's obvious other countries can do that cheaper).

you could turn to protectionist measures, but that would kill you in the long term. however, if i were you i'd be a LOT more worried about the state of your national debt rather than the state of your national industry. GWB is doing his best to drive the US into the ground it seems, as he keeps piling debt onto debt. the dollar & the industry can still bear this for the moment, but eventually they'll crack if the US continue on their present course (especially since a lot of the dollar is in the hands of your economic 'rivals'. if they decide that it's been enough, they can easily freeze assets & incite a collapse.). that would mean the death of the dollar & a worldwide monetary crash (even though the Euro is strong, the whole world will suffer greatly).

PS: as for the comparison you made between both cars, it also illustrates very well why the USA's economy is one of waste & ineffiency and is responsible for 30% of the worlds polution while your population doesnt even represent 5% of the world... besides, i drive a Honda CB500 Naked. they really aint bad.
 
Old 25th August 2006, 13:28   #3
8bit
 
Posts: n/a
Default

Quote:
your industry will have to see they have to focus on specialisation, innovation & quality, rather than mass production or heavy labor (it's obvious other countries can do that cheaper).
That makes sense, but then I found out that UK sports shoe maker New Balance still makes its stuff in the UK, whereas Addidas and Dyson (vacuum cleaners) have relocated completely to S.East Asia, and yet the New Balance shoes aren't any more expensive than rival brands. That seems to go against the argument that you need to relocate to a deleoping country to stay cost competitive.

Ha, ha the old cars are for illustration only, using modern cars you could compare the Toyota Corolla and Chrysler Neon as small 4 cylinder cars. US gas guzzling cars are mostly history, except for big trucks & SUVs.
 
Old 1st September 2006, 20:09   #4
SuAside
 
Posts: n/a
Default

Quote:
Originally posted by 8bit
except for big trucks & SUVs.
and there are a LOT of those

as for the shoe thing? i'd guess that they probably did some big investments in mechanised production. made it less labour intensive by letting machines do most of the work.

also, Nike & consorts don't sell here in relation to what the production cost is, they sell at the price we're willing to pay.

for example a competition leather football costs them 10 dollars to manufacture & ship to the respective countries, but they sell them well over 50 euros overhere. that's more than 400% profit...

we rely on the open market competition to crack down on this, but all big brands prefer to keep the prices up. a pricewar would only hurt them all, so why bother?
 
Old 7th September 2006, 08:07   #5
8bit
 
Posts: n/a
Default

Quote:
for example a competition leather football costs them 10 dollars to manufacture & ship to the respective countries, but they sell them well over 50 euros overhere. that's more than 400% profit...
If you remember the Reebok "Pump" of the early 90s, that was $170, all just for a fashion shoe with an airbag in the sole that could be inflated! There was a huge profit margin on that, and it wasn't a very good shoe so it's popularity was shortlived.

Richard Branson believes in price wars, upset the existing competition with low prices and once he gets good market share he raises the prices. Then he sells it as an established business and its someone elses' problem. Same goes for that website that has just announced free downloads on all music, so it can rapidly expand its customer base. Gotta love capitalism, lol.
 
Closed Thread


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Music industry firms are a bunch of pirates jmke WebNews 1 8th December 2009 16:14
USB3.0 forks as industry gangs up on Intel Shogun WebNews 1 2nd June 2008 17:52
RIP BluRay - Porn Industry to use HD-DVD jmke WebNews 0 12th January 2007 11:45
1080P is history, the industry wants 4096x2160 jmke WebNews 0 11th September 2006 23:32
ATI's New Radeon® X1800 Garnering Industry Wide Praise From Game Developers jmke WebNews 1 16th October 2005 09:11
AMD64 Technology Garners More Than 120 Industry Awards Sidney WebNews 0 31st August 2005 07:00
VIA Announces Support from Industry Leader for PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet Implement jmke WebNews 0 8th December 2004 13:50
Industry Update - Q4-2004: AMD adds SSE3 Support, Intel's 925/915 not selling jmke WebNews 7 3rd November 2004 20:45
German Music Industry Wins First Court Case Against Music Pirates Sidney WebNews 0 9th June 2004 00:55
ATI Extends Industry Lead in Integrated Graphics with RADEONTM 9100 PRO IGP jmke WebNews 0 3rd May 2004 13:10

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are Off


All times are GMT +1. The time now is 18:31.


Powered by vBulletin® - Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Content Relevant URLs by vBSEO