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Old 15th August 2005, 10:07   #11
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It's not that I want to switch completely to linux, I'll still (and probablly mostly) use windows. I just want to learn linux and that's more lilely going to happen when I use more often than just booting it starting F@H.
 
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I can agree with jmke, windows can be very easy indeed, but there are in my humble opinion too many things wrong with it. both technically and ethically.

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difficult, okay. but don't call it 'restrictive', that word can only appriopriately be used when you're used to linux and work on a windows machine. the point of linux is that it enables you to do anything with it.
 
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I can agree with jmke, windows can be very easy indeed, but there are in my humble opinion too many things wrong with it. both technically and ethically.


difficult, okay. but don't call it 'restrictive', that word can only appriopriately be used when you're used to linux and work on a windows machine. the point of linux is that it enables you to do anything with it.
'DirectX' Just about covers it.
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Old 15th August 2005, 15:00   #14
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thank you Duron
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so, yep, linux IS restrictive; there is not a lot of commercially supported software available for it either when compared to the windows world
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'DirectX' Just about covers it.
true... but that's because it's closed windows software. linux isn't meant for gaming

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yep, linux IS restrictive; there is not a lot of commercially supported software available for it either when compared to the windows world
for professional companies, there are distributions like redhat that sell enterprise editions, with support.
 
Old 16th August 2005, 10:28   #16
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linux isn't meant for gaming
I don't buy 6800GT to NOT play games; so *fck* linux

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for professional companies, there are distributions like redhat that sell enterprise editions, with support.
we're not talking about companies; we're talking about home use. No official support, not worth the effort. Too restrictive; not as user friendly.
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the Mac Mini or Emac offers less hardware power then PC counterpart and is no good alternative. you can not game on it, and you need a G4 or G5 to really enjoy the multimedia experience of the Mac
For 450 euro you can't but a PC that is so small, such capabilities and, don't forget, such looks...

There was recently a newspost on tweakers that said the profit on the MacMini was huge. Could be, but in the comments sections people started making calculations.. For a bit less of the MAC price you have an normal office computer. You won't tell me you have an gaming computer for ~450 euro.

case: 35 euro
CPU sempron: 60 euro
mainboard: 40 euro
512 Mem: 60 euro
DVD: 25 euro
HDD 80 gig: 55 euro
VGA (9200): 40 euro
totals: 315 euro.

That is less than the mac, but it's a huge case, and it isn't a gmining system at all....

The mac Mini is a very good model for trying out the Mac feeling. Not that much money for what you get...


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we're not talking about companies; we're talking about home use. No official support, not worth the effort. Too restrictive; not as user friendly.
What keeps you -as a home user- away from buying a linux version with support ? Redhat is the most expensive one, as it is often used for servers and stuff...

But I know that Suse has/had a very payable box, with a manual, and support, the price was ~60 euro...

For gaming, both Linux and MacOS suck. I have to agree with that, but I don't game, Needed a very stable OS where I still could toy around, en hopsa MacOS
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What keeps you -as a home user- away from buying a linux version with support ?
gaming and multimedia;

read Anandtech's thoughts on the Mac Mini, they are the same as mine. the mini is fun to try out the MacOS; but it's too slow to be used as primairy PC, and too expensive of a gadget just for "fun"
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A primary PC sould do:

Surfing
Mail and stuff
Movie
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The iBook I have has a weaker content then the mac mini and does this all perfectly, whithout a hitch !
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8 out of 10 ppl i know don't use their PC for gaming, and don't need (nor want) a loud, big 3.5Ghz monster.

The mac mini with 512mb has more than enough power for the average joe... including me.
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