For those to bench AGP
 

Due to the fact I smoked Massmans board (it's already 1 meter under the ground), I ordered a new Asrock 4CoredualSATA2 rev 2 beta mobo... it's a socket 775 mobo with AGP and PCI-E for both DDR and DDR2 rams...

Limitations :

1) max FSB 300 ( so you need a good cpu with a high multi ( style E7500 or Extreme cpu ) to get high CPU speed, though 3.3Ghz is more than enough

2) No Vcore setting in the bios ( voltmod required to give more than the VID detected)

3) Till now bad divider with DDR2 so needs to run 1:1 (meaning max 600mhz)
max 4 bank interlave possible and 2T CR

4) mostly GPU limited in benches (my FX5200 sucks ***, ATI 9550 seems promising, as does the 6800 GT)

If Pj doesn't want to have the new mobo, I can lend it out ( though if you smoke it, you prolly know where to order a new one :p ) for those that still have an AGP card lying around and want to get some small points for the team...

Will keep you posted how it evolves ;-)

I have a few AGP cards up for grabs if you want Leeghoofd:)

I want to marry you !!!

are you still free :p

The first board may be repairable :).

made a boo-boo, no 7 series of NV on AGP sorry.
here's what in my desk drawer on AGP:


top left to right: Radeon 9700 Pro, Radeon 9700, Radeon 9500 Pro, Xabre 200
bottom left to right: Radeon 8500AIW, Geforce 1 DDR, 6600 GT, Ti4600

combined with your setup we can break some records :D

Damn, team Madshrimps really needs a bench weekend (or even week).

Would be cool to organise a mid-week OC event in something like Center Parks or so :nana:. Barbecue-ing all week long whilst chilling with LN2, dry ice, Cascade and so on :flame:

I hope you are right ;) otherwise the new board is yours ( Like I told you on ze phone)

I will dig the asrock up tomorrow morning then :rolleyes:

Those ATI 9x cards will give us some good and easy points John... maybe the 6600GT too... but first I7 roundup to be completed, then this

Btw, to answer the remarks:

1) 45nm is not supported as far as I know, so you'll have to find a high-multipliered 65nm.
2) Vmod modification is no issue. If the first board doesn't work anymore, I'll mod the second one with the VR's of the first board.
3) Must re-study the board to see what possible and what's not. There was a certain combination of FSB and divider you had to boot at to get the highest possible frequency. With DDR2, I was able to run 3-2-2-X 1T, though.
4) Absolutely true.

I'm actually more fond of the idea to make this the team's AGP board then my personal one :D

Oops ... E7500 IS supported apparently

//EDIT: then the E8600 should work as well, actually

My E7400 is supported but that's 10.5 multi max... (it's the rev 2 of your previous board)

I read somewhere about a strap change at 280FSB and then setfsb ya way up... will test later this week with some superpi's and everest bandwith tests to see what works best with my Gskills

My rams currently do 3-3-3-5 2T (high voltage selected in the bios), C2.5 is a no post (think mobo limited, there not ram limited)

My main issue here's the many unknown settings in the bios ; more trial and error here to see what works and what doesn't... but like it's running now it's already fine for my daily abuse :p

Also can you measure the mounting points of the PWM's on the RE plz, so I can see if my thermalright coolers will fit on that board ( so you just need to look for a SB solution )

Moff to bed now nite nite

il take a look in a draw tonight and see if i can find my good old BH-5 280mhz kit :).

i know that these are somewhere here in the room, but dont ask where.

Don't think it's possible to run 280 2-2-2-5 on that board ... dividers and FSB issues.

think mams old pc used to have 2x512mb tccd :D.

I'm also preparing myself for some old skool clocking. But all in due time. First I'm collecting some of the best mainboards.

- Got the P4C 800 E dlx
- And tha Abit NF7-S

I still have a 4Core-Dual-SATA2 laying round here. It's a very good board as I had no problems overclocking the FSB to about 340MHz (the maximum in the BIOS). Check http://www.hwbot.org/signature.img?i...35&thumb=false for 333MHz FSB with a dualcore or http://www.hwbot.org/signature.img?i...36&thumb=false for up to 3.5GHz with an E4700.
If you can still cancel your order, you can have mine...

piot if u want a cpu, i have a AXP here that should be good if massman looked right ;).

For the moment I have some durons and a few palomino's that should do it :)

There was also a problem with TCCD memory, but forgot what problem exactly.

Holy smokes! If that's still unmodified, it's a very good overclocking motherboard. Imagine what this board could do with modifications :naughty:

unmodded indeed. But with another clockgen than other boards, check http://www.johanlemaire.be/OC/Asrock%204CoreDual-sata2/

That might explain why your getting those high frequencies. Did you encounter any of the memory divider oddities I did while testing the board?

I don't know, I don't remember :$
But if my memory serves me right, I used this board with 2x1GB Infineon BE-5 of CE-5, which has some specialties of its own.

Seems there's a revival coming :) Any idea when or how to pick that bundle of AGP cards John ?

Mail me;)

Make sure you don't violate the hardware sharing rules at hwbot :)

I'm afraid 60% of those cards are DOA :(

Just make sure you take the "Power Plant" option at Center Parks then ;)

You smoked them ? you madman, if the 9500 and 9800 are okay i'll be very happy already.

I've never violated any rule (not that I'm aware off) but it would be fun to bend them :p Do I check Johns results first then ? supposed he benched all of them to gain some points ?

Are you talking about the green stuff you can smoke and makes your eyes go wobbly ?

nope; none of them were KIA; they just stopped working after 2 moves from Hoboken > Nijvel > Hennuyeres, I have them all in anti-static bags, well protected, but they refused to give image on my MSI K8N S754 AGP board; I later found out the PSU was br0ked, that's why I'm not saying 100% of them are out of commission, I have some hope that 40% still works.

the 8500DV should still work, the 9700 Pro also, the others I have no idea ;)

regarding HWBot, you'll be benching to increase my points :D
http://www.hwbot.org/listResults.do?...pplicationId=1

So I send you the screenies then (if worthwhile) and you up them ? Then it's okay for HWbot ?

basically that approach is OK for HWBot yes; you can't share VGA cards for 3D benchmarks or CPUs for 2D benchmarks:)

we can also share the scores, as long as there are no doubles in our 2 HWbot accounts

As far as I know, the first (and most straight-forward) rule of Hwbot is: "Only submit results to your account when you achieved them". So no one should post scores he/she didn't make.

So if I mention Jmke and leeghoofd benching together it's doable ? Otherwise I setup all the working cards (test the max frequencies and such) and we can bench them together at a BBQ or such in the near future...

Yeah, if it's a joined session, it's okay of course :).

Okay

And you should focus on studying, you are way to active here at the moment :p

Think of ya 6 children that need to be fed soon :p

You're absolutely right, actually.

//I'm off.

finally some peace and quiet!

Leeghoofd don't forget to add the subtest results in your screenshots, all the results you posted today can be blocked :-/

K MAssman informed me, I never ever ( look at my results haven't posted these subdetails ever lol )... wasn't even aware that they were required

Leeghoofd don't forget to add the subtest results in your screenshots, all the results you posted today can be blocked
http://hwbot.org/hwbot.post.do?postId=1038


none of your screenshot have subtests, if people report them, they can be blocked :(

Then I will start my manhunt and report every benchmark that hasn\'t been 100% accurate. The 6800GT benchies I can do again, but all the other hardware I have no more...

Then I will erase all the HWbot crew members one by one !