T.E.C's

5th November 2004, 22:36

hi

i'm planning on builiding a tec setup for my cpu (still in a very early stage)

do you guys give me some usefull pointers about the insulation (where to get the stuff in belgium), the tec itself (how mucht watt) and so on.

ty

jmke · 5th November 2004, 22:37

http://www.madshrimps.be/?action=hwfaqsearch
search "peltier"

mucho info, very informational

5th November 2004, 23:03

You know the way to XS and XR, there should be plenty of info there.

some excellent info here also:
http://forums.extremeoverclocking.co...play.php?f=182

and this may help a little on where to get isolation materials; unfortunately, I haven't had much time to look around for these things because it costs way more if you have to buy it from a pc shop...

oh and you probably already know but you can use vaseline instead of dielectric grease but it becomes more fluid when it gets warm so it may run into slots and stop your hardware from working, it will usually not short out but you'll have to wash your board and let it dry completely

5th November 2004, 23:46

http://www.thetechzone.com/articles/peltier_intro/

http://www.overclockers.com/tips45/

http://titanicmetme.jero.cc/peltier/peltiers2.html

http://www.tetech.com/

Here something about humidity in house, a very important factor.

This one is about condensationcalculation,dew point calculation, (dauwpuntberekening)
http://www.weerschip.nl/calc_Td.php

I found a good dealer in the USA , i did you a pm Nazaar. If you (or others) want the details , just let me know.

For example, a 130/170 Watt pelt, new for only 18.20$ (15€) shipping to Belgium inclusive.

This is what i'm thinking to build for starting with peltiers:

http://www.tetech.com/assys/lc200.shtml

Greetz,

6th November 2004, 00:38

Quote:

[i]I found a good dealer in the USA , i did you a pm Nazaar. If you (or others) want the details , just let me know.[/b]

me wants to know too

some nice info you posted therer

6th November 2004, 08:02

any chance of doing a group order ??

piotke · 6th November 2004, 08:37

try also to contact the local velleman dealers. As they also sell TEC elements, but on a much lower price.

Gamer · 6th November 2004, 08:59

Velleman dealers only have some lower watt peltiers, even a 80 watt wasn't in stock.

6th November 2004, 13:12

Ok, here is the text from the mail he send me last week:

Hello Roel,

Thank you for your interest in our peltiers. The item you are asking about is our model CP1-12715 (50mm/130-170watt). The charge for shipping this item to Belgium is $10.99

Thermal Enterprises is a Mfg/Dist of the highest quality and performance thermoelectric devices available with more than 40 different models to select from. We can offer improved pricing for direct purchases however, for our eBay auctions the shipping charges are fixed for each item and for each auction. We do not reduce these charges for multiple items or for combined shipments. This is necessary to cover our costs for these auctions.

Here is the direct sale price list for our most popular models. Listed prices include free shipping worldwide and are based on payment via money order. If you wish to make payment via PayPal there is a 5% additional charge.

Model CP1-01710 (15mm/13-17W)
$13.20 each (Qty 1-9 pieces)
$12.20 each (Qty 10-19 pieces)
$11.20 each (Qty 20+ pieces)

Model CP1-03105 (15mm/12-16W)
$13.40 each (Qty 1-9 pieces)
$12.40 each (Qty 10-19 pieces)
$11.40 each (Qty 20+ pieces)

Model CP1-03108 (20mm/14-19W)
$13.60 each (Qty 1-9 pieces)
$12.60 each (Qty 10-19 pieces)
$11.60 each (Qty 20+ pieces)

Model CP1-07110 (30mm/53-69W)
$13.80 each (Qty 1-9 pieces)
$12.80 each (Qty 10-19 pieces)
$11.80 each (Qty 20+ pieces)

Model CP1-12706 (40mm/53-69W)
$14.00 each (Qty 1-9 pieces)
$13.00 each (Qty 10-19 pieces)
$12.00 each (Qty 20+ pieces)

Model CP1-12708 (40mm/72-95W)
$14.20 each (Qty 1-9 pieces)
$13.20 each (Qty 10-19 pieces)
$12.20 each (Qty 20+ pieces)

Model CP1-12710 (40mm/85-110W)
$14.40 each (Qty 1-9 pieces)
$13.40 each (Qty 10-19 pieces)
$12.40 each (Qty 20+ pieces)

Model CP1-12715 (50mm/130-170W)
$18.20 each (Qty 1-9 pieces)
$17.10 each (Qty 10-19 pieces)
$16.00 each (Qty 20+ pieces)

Model CP1-12726 (50mm/245-320W)
$24.40 each (Qty 1-9 pieces)
$23.20 each (Qty 10-19 pieces)
$22.00 each (Qty 20+ pieces)

Model CP1-12730 (62mm/270-350W)
$26.30 each (Qty 1-9 pieces)
$25.00 each (Qty 10-19 pieces)
$23.70 each (Qty 20+ pieces)

Model HT1-12710 (40mm/85-110W - Power Generation)
$15.60 each (Qty 1-9 pieces)
$14.60 each (Qty 10-19 pieces)
$13.60 each (Qty 20+ pieces)

Best Regards,
Michael Hollander
Thermal Enterprises

This was the reply on a question on e-bay auction.

"Sneaky" as I am, I did another mail to him, with the question if I could purchase direct to his comagny.
That was not a problem at all , and it was even a lot cheaper!
Here's the text of that mail:

Roel,

Yes, you can save money by purchasing direct. The price of $18.20 each for model CP1-12715 includes shipping to Belgium and there are no additional charges. However, if payment is made via PayPal there is a 5% additional charge.

If you want to place an order you can simply tell me the quantity, model and method of payment. If you want to pay via PayPal I will send you a PayPal invoice. If you want to pay via money order you can send payment to:

Michael Hollander
Thermal Enterprises
2 Shady Lane
Kendall Park, NJ 08824
USA

For payment via money order I recommend that you try using Western Union (www.westernunion.com). If you use Western Union it can be done online using a credit card and you can email the security code to me so I can collect the payment at my local Western Union agent. This is a lot faster than sending a money order in the mail.

Regards,
Michael Hollander
Thermal Enterprises

As you see, its not a problem to purchase a lot of peltiers there. And a lot cheaper, compared to prices here in Belgium. Low Dollar can save you some serious money

6th November 2004, 16:32

nice

I don't know much about pelts but someone told me the pelts had to be "potted" I think.

Do you know what it means and how I am supposed to tell the difference?

Also, I had a quick look on their site for psu's and they looked just like the ones from meanwell only meanwell has some 15V models (ideal to get the max out of your pelts I would think) and they didn't.

5th November 2004, 22:36	#1
Nazaar Posts: n/a	T.E.C's hi i'm planning on builiding a tec setup for my cpu (still in a very early stage) do you guys give me some usefull pointers about the insulation (where to get the stuff in belgium), the tec itself (how mucht watt) and so on. ty

5th November 2004, 22:37	#2
jmke Madshrimp Join Date: May 2002 Location: 7090/Belgium Posts: 79,021	http://www.madshrimps.be/?action=hwfaqsearch search "peltier" mucho info, very informational __________________

6th November 2004, 08:37	#7
piotke [M] Reviewer Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 5,003	try also to contact the local velleman dealers. As they also sell TEC elements, but on a much lower price. __________________ .

6th November 2004, 08:59	#8
Gamer [M] Reviewer Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 4,587	Velleman dealers only have some lower watt peltiers, even a 80 watt wasn't in stock. __________________

5th November 2004, 23:03	#3
kristos Posts: n/a	You know the way to XS and XR, there should be plenty of info there. some excellent info here also: http://forums.extremeoverclocking.co...play.php?f=182 and this may help a little on where to get isolation materials; unfortunately, I haven't had much time to look around for these things because it costs way more if you have to buy it from a pc shop... oh and you probably already know but you can use vaseline instead of dielectric grease but it becomes more fluid when it gets warm so it may run into slots and stop your hardware from working, it will usually not short out but you'll have to wash your board and let it dry completely

5th November 2004, 23:46	#4
Desert Eagle Posts: n/a	http://www.thetechzone.com/articles/peltier_intro/ http://www.overclockers.com/tips45/ http://titanicmetme.jero.cc/peltier/peltiers2.html http://www.tetech.com/ Here something about humidity in house, a very important factor. This one is about condensationcalculation,dew point calculation, (dauwpuntberekening) http://www.weerschip.nl/calc_Td.php I found a good dealer in the USA , i did you a pm Nazaar. If you (or others) want the details , just let me know. For example, a 130/170 Watt pelt, new for only 18.20$ (15€) shipping to Belgium inclusive. This is what i'm thinking to build for starting with peltiers: http://www.tetech.com/assys/lc200.shtml Greetz,

6th November 2004, 08:02	#6
Nazaar Posts: n/a	any chance of doing a group order ??

6th November 2004, 13:12	#9
Desert Eagle Posts: n/a	Ok, here is the text from the mail he send me last week: Hello Roel, Thank you for your interest in our peltiers. The item you are asking about is our model CP1-12715 (50mm/130-170watt). The charge for shipping this item to Belgium is $10.99 Thermal Enterprises is a Mfg/Dist of the highest quality and performance thermoelectric devices available with more than 40 different models to select from. We can offer improved pricing for direct purchases however, for our eBay auctions the shipping charges are fixed for each item and for each auction. We do not reduce these charges for multiple items or for combined shipments. This is necessary to cover our costs for these auctions. Here is the direct sale price list for our most popular models. Listed prices include free shipping worldwide and are based on payment via money order. If you wish to make payment via PayPal there is a 5% additional charge. Model CP1-01710 (15mm/13-17W) $13.20 each (Qty 1-9 pieces) $12.20 each (Qty 10-19 pieces) $11.20 each (Qty 20+ pieces) Model CP1-03105 (15mm/12-16W) $13.40 each (Qty 1-9 pieces) $12.40 each (Qty 10-19 pieces) $11.40 each (Qty 20+ pieces) Model CP1-03108 (20mm/14-19W) $13.60 each (Qty 1-9 pieces) $12.60 each (Qty 10-19 pieces) $11.60 each (Qty 20+ pieces) Model CP1-07110 (30mm/53-69W) $13.80 each (Qty 1-9 pieces) $12.80 each (Qty 10-19 pieces) $11.80 each (Qty 20+ pieces) Model CP1-12706 (40mm/53-69W) $14.00 each (Qty 1-9 pieces) $13.00 each (Qty 10-19 pieces) $12.00 each (Qty 20+ pieces) Model CP1-12708 (40mm/72-95W) $14.20 each (Qty 1-9 pieces) $13.20 each (Qty 10-19 pieces) $12.20 each (Qty 20+ pieces) Model CP1-12710 (40mm/85-110W) $14.40 each (Qty 1-9 pieces) $13.40 each (Qty 10-19 pieces) $12.40 each (Qty 20+ pieces) Model CP1-12715 (50mm/130-170W) $18.20 each (Qty 1-9 pieces) $17.10 each (Qty 10-19 pieces) $16.00 each (Qty 20+ pieces) Model CP1-12726 (50mm/245-320W) $24.40 each (Qty 1-9 pieces) $23.20 each (Qty 10-19 pieces) $22.00 each (Qty 20+ pieces) Model CP1-12730 (62mm/270-350W) $26.30 each (Qty 1-9 pieces) $25.00 each (Qty 10-19 pieces) $23.70 each (Qty 20+ pieces) Model HT1-12710 (40mm/85-110W - Power Generation) $15.60 each (Qty 1-9 pieces) $14.60 each (Qty 10-19 pieces) $13.60 each (Qty 20+ pieces) Best Regards, Michael Hollander Thermal Enterprises This was the reply on a question on e-bay auction. "Sneaky" as I am, I did another mail to him, with the question if I could purchase direct to his comagny. That was not a problem at all , and it was even a lot cheaper! Here's the text of that mail: Roel, Yes, you can save money by purchasing direct. The price of $18.20 each for model CP1-12715 includes shipping to Belgium and there are no additional charges. However, if payment is made via PayPal there is a 5% additional charge. If you want to place an order you can simply tell me the quantity, model and method of payment. If you want to pay via PayPal I will send you a PayPal invoice. If you want to pay via money order you can send payment to: Michael Hollander Thermal Enterprises 2 Shady Lane Kendall Park, NJ 08824 USA For payment via money order I recommend that you try using Western Union (www.westernunion.com). If you use Western Union it can be done online using a credit card and you can email the security code to me so I can collect the payment at my local Western Union agent. This is a lot faster than sending a money order in the mail. Regards, Michael Hollander Thermal Enterprises As you see, its not a problem to purchase a lot of peltiers there. And a lot cheaper, compared to prices here in Belgium. Low Dollar can save you some serious money

6th November 2004, 16:32	#10
kristos Posts: n/a	nice I don't know much about pelts but someone told me the pelts had to be "potted" I think. Do you know what it means and how I am supposed to tell the difference? Also, I had a quick look on their site for psu's and they looked just like the ones from meanwell only meanwell has some 15V models (ideal to get the max out of your pelts I would think) and they didn't.