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kr15t0f 4th November 2004 17:38

mobo can't get passed 250fsb with ram 1:1
 
I, today I tried (yes tried :( ) to beat my 37sec super pi record.

Because the max of my processor on 1.87V ( I don't got the courage to go higher alltough max temp is 36°C) 2630Mhz I tried today with multi 10.
But for some reason my mobo doesn't want to go any higher that 250Mhz.
250Mhz is stable, 251 = no boot.

I already tought it was my ram, but because I can't let my ram run asyncroon with my fsb ( = no boot) I don't know how to test it.
Prolly it's not my ram, because it runs 250 at 3.12V and I allready set the voltage to 3.25V. Does somebody know how I'll be able to solve this problem? Because my mobo can do 268fsb with ram asyncroon (but for the moment I always get no boot when running the ram asyncroon).


BTW, does someone know whats the max vdimm a NF7-s can detect? I think it's 3.25V, because I never get voltages over 3.25V even if I lower the resistance of my vdimm mod.

easypanic 4th November 2004 19:02

I can only think of one thing: your NB can't take FSB's over 250Mhz 1:1.

That's it.

kr15t0f 4th November 2004 19:28

Quote:

Originally posted by easypanic
I can only think of one thing: your NB can't take FSB's over 250Mhz 1:1.

That's it.

Is there a difference between 250fsb ram 5/6 and 250fsb ram 1/1??? Strange

jmke 4th November 2004 19:56

same can be seen on P4's too; my Asus P4C does 300FSB with dividers; only 260FSB in 1:1

kr15t0f 4th November 2004 20:15

Quote:

Originally posted by jmke
same can be seen on P4's too; my Asus P4C does 300FSB with dividers; only 260FSB in 1:1
so I'm f*cked? :(

jmke 4th November 2004 20:37

250 on NF2 is far from bad; would not call that "f*cked"

kr15t0f 4th November 2004 20:41

Quote:

Originally posted by jmke
250 on NF2 is far from bad; would not call that "f*cked"
Yes, I know, but I thought that divider didn't made a difference in mobo overclocking :(. I hoped to get 268 with ram 1:1

jmke 4th November 2004 20:42

I hoped to get 300 with ram 1:1 ;p

kr15t0f 4th November 2004 21:16

Quote:

Originally posted by jmke
I hoped to get 300 with ram 1:1 ;p
:)

kristos 4th November 2004 21:31

did you try with only 1 memory stick instead of trying to run 2 in dual channel?

kr15t0f 4th November 2004 21:33

Quote:

Originally posted by kristos
did you try with only 1 memory stick instead of trying to run 2 in dual channel?
gonna try it tomorrow, now it's to late, and I got school tomorrow. :grum:

Da_BoKa 5th November 2004 11:51

stick your best stick in dimm 3 ( test them seperatly ) that should give you a slight increase.

tried with acpi of?

there used to be a thread on XS how to tweak the nf7 but it's gone.

kr15t0f 5th November 2004 14:48

Quote:

Originally posted by Da_BoKa
stick your best stick in dimm 3 ( test them seperatly ) that should give you a slight increase.

tried with apic of?

there used to be a thread on XS how to tweak the nf7 but it's gone.

If you install windows with apic on you can't boot in windows with apic off :( .

Have to do a fresh install with apic off to test that ;)

Da_BoKa 5th November 2004 15:40

Quote:

Originally posted by kr15t0f


If you install windows with apic on you can't boot in windows with apic off :( .

Have to do a fresh install with apic off to test that ;)

not exactly,
quoted from ower beloved forum owner :hello: :
Device Manager -> My Computer -> Update Driver -> Will choose my own driver -> Standard PC

okay, reboot, done.

and to turn it back on:
2) Boot from the Win XP CD (Should apply to Win2K)
3) When you get the "Press F6 if you need to..." (the SCSI driver prompt) press F5 instead
4) In the menu that comes up shortly after, scroll up with the arrow keys and choose "ACPI processor PC"
5) Setup will ask if you want to use the Advanced System Recovery Console or install Windows XP, choose to install Windows XP
6) It will then tell you it found a previous installation on your disk and offer to repair it, choose this option (press R)
7) XP will get reinstalled with the new HAL and preserve everything else
( also quoted from that guy )

jmke 5th November 2004 15:46

quote is from Septimus!
http://www.madshrimps.be/forums/show...highlight=APIC

:)

Da_BoKa 5th November 2004 15:55

we are just one happy quoting forum

kr15t0f 5th November 2004 16:20

Quote:

Originally posted by Da_BoKa


not exactly,
quoted from ower beloved forum owner :hello: :
Device Manager -> My Computer -> Update Driver -> Will choose my own driver -> Standard PC

okay, reboot, done.

and to turn it back on:
2) Boot from the Win XP CD (Should apply to Win2K)
3) When you get the "Press F6 if you need to..." (the SCSI driver prompt) press F5 instead
4) In the menu that comes up shortly after, scroll up with the arrow keys and choose "ACPI processor PC"
5) Setup will ask if you want to use the Advanced System Recovery Console or install Windows XP, choose to install Windows XP
6) It will then tell you it found a previous installation on your disk and offer to repair it, choose this option (press R)
7) XP will get reinstalled with the new HAL and preserve everything else
( also quoted from that guy )

is there a risk with doing this? Do I have to back-up some files?

Da_BoKa 5th November 2004 16:21

dunno :)

kr15t0f 5th November 2004 16:28

can someone translate this ( to windows translations offcours)

"Device Manager -> My Computer -> Update Driver -> Will choose my own driver -> Standard PC"

for win xp :D

I don't find this stuff in win xp :rolleyes:

edit: found it I think


kr15t0f 5th November 2004 16:40

is it apic or acpi??? because apic is on in bios, but you changed your reply and now there stands acpi???

I'm a bit confused, I have to turn of acpi???
in the thread you quoted they say that apic on is beter.

apic =/= acpi, I know that.

But why they talk about apic all the time in a thread about acpi???

apic is controlled bij bios???
acpi by software???

So I have to leave apic on in bios, but change acpi?

jmke 5th November 2004 17:12

APIC ON = ACPI Uniprocessor PC
ACPI on = ACPI PC
ACPI off soft = Standard PC

kr15t0f 5th November 2004 17:14

255 fsb with 1 stick of ram at 3.28V
2-2-2-11

good result? Maybe give some more voltage to my mem???

kr15t0f 5th November 2004 17:16

Quote:

Originally posted by jmke
APIC ON = ACPI Uniprocessor PC
ACPI on = ACPI PC
ACPI off soft = Standard PC

So I have to put APIC off in bios, and then do the thing da_boka quoted?

jmke 5th November 2004 17:37

disabling APIC will hurt performance, check the thread I linked in my post(s) above

kr15t0f 5th November 2004 17:40

Quote:

Originally posted by jmke
disabling APIC will hurt performance, check the thread I linked in my post(s) above
1) so leave APIC ON
2) set to standaard pc in device manager
3) instal win xp with acpi off.

think I got it right this time

Da_BoKa 6th November 2004 08:11

Quote:

Originally posted by jmke
disabling APIC will hurt performance, check the thread I linked in my post(s) above
yes it will hurt your performance a bit but it will raise your fsb, you have to test it touroughly ( with or without acpi on and the performance gain ).

And yes it's possible that the gain of fsb is so little that you will lose performance.

Trail and error ;)


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