G33MD00D

I'll be buying a new PC soon.. I was planning to buy an AMD 3500+ but I heard from Kristos that the AMD 3000+ and AMD 3200+ are jewels if it comes to overclocking?

whatever CPU it is, I'll buy a Winchester.. no Newcastle. (and of course if I buy an AMD 3000+ or an AMD 3200+ a socket 939)

Now.. Kristos said the AMD 3500+ isn't that good overclockable? Not as good as the AMD 3200+ and AMD 3000+ are?

I heard it's definetly possible if you overclock your AMD 3000+ or an AMD 3200+ to the same prestations as an AMD 3500+ has (that isn't overclocked)

From that niveau it's more about how many luck you have with your setup?

What about the AMD 3500+ in general? Can it overclock far?


If I would need to chose between an AMD 3000+ and an AMD 3200+.. which one to pick? they both are on 2.0ghz, price difference is around 50€.

prices in belgium for the 3 CPU'S:

Amd Athlon 3500+: around 270€
Amd Athlon 3200+: around 200€
Amd Athlon 3000+: around 150€


Which type of mainboard you have has a big influence for how far you can overclock your CPU right? I'm planning to buy an nForce 4 mainboard.. don't know which one, the Asus A8N-Sli looks interesting.. (= http://www.overclockers.co.uk/acatal...ocket_939.html)
Do you know reviews online of this mainboard? I checked: www.anandtech.com, www.hardocp.com and www.amdzone.com and I saw no review of that mainboard.. I'd like to know if it's a good mainboard if it comes to overclocking my CPU and graka!

Sidney

Care to read some of the great articles presented by [M] reviews?
Your answers may be in front of your eyes.

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lazyman

Opteron 165 (2) @2.85 1.42 vcore AMD Stock HSF + Chill Vent II

Da_BoKa

definatly the 3200+, especially when you oc on air, you have the adavantage of the 10x multiplier, so when your motherboard dousn't allows high fsb's you can still up the mp for a higher oc!

G33MD00D

I'll read the reviews in an hour.. I need some other things to do first.

PS: can someone answer on my mainboard question?

"Which type of mainboard you have has a big influence for how far you can overclock your CPU right? I'm planning to buy an nForce 4 mainboard.. don't know which one, the Asus A8N-Sli looks interesting.. (= http://www.overclockers.co.uk/acatal...ocket_939.html)
Do you know reviews online of this mainboard? I checked: www.anandtech.com, www.hardocp.com and www.amdzone.com and I saw no review of that mainboard.. I'd like to know if it's a good mainboard if it comes to overclocking my CPU and graka!"

jmke

not sure.. but reviews are plenty
http://www.google.be/search?hl=nl&q=...i+Review&meta=

but these don't include much OC results, since the nForce4 chipset is not yet widely available

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G33MD00D

so there are no decent nForce 4 reviews where they fully tested the OC abbility's?

I probably need to buy on feeling than.. which brand is knowable of overclocking? ASUS? MSI? ABIT? Gigabyte?

Or doesn't the mainboard influence how far you can overclock with your processor?

jmke

there are no nForce4 retail boards in stores yet!!!

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G33MD00D

I know they aren't in stores yet, somewhere next week... but it's not because they aren't in the stores yet there can't be reviews yeh? It's with games the same... people get one of the games a week, two weeks before it's even released.

PS: I read the article: http://www.madshrimps.be/?action=get...&articID=23 0 it's quite obviously that the AMD Athlon 3200+ 90rm gives better prestations than the AMD Athlon 3500+ 130nm

but.. ain't that fair to compare a Winchester CPU with a Newcastle CPU? Does someone have benchmarks where they compare an overclocked AMD 3200+ 90nm with an AMD 3500+ 90nm in some games etc?

jmke

uhm.. and Athlon 3200+ gives a little bit better performance when CLOCKED EQUALLY to 3500+

in all other cases 3500+ wins

"but it's not because they aren't in the stores yet there can't be reviews yeh?"

no OC reviews that's for sure

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kristos

When you quote me, replicate it exact

I said I wouldn't go for the 3500+ because I haven't heard or seen any amazing results of it yet.

I said that amongst the 3000+ and 3200+, there are some real overclocking gems but not all of them perform so amazingly.

I said I'd go for the 3000+ because in dispite of the fact that it's the lowest rated 90nm, I've noticed that most of those amazing overclocks were achieved with 3000+ models and a few were with 3200+ models.

I also said that higher rating doesn't guarantee higher overclock and I pointed you towards beerkes posts in the superpi thread where he states that his 3000+ reached 2700 mhz rather stable but his 3200+ wouldn't make it to 2600 mhz.