China tries to bully Google

@ 2010/03/24
As of Tuesday the site was still not blocked, but most observers believe that the Chinese government will move to block google.cn or google.com.hk. Some are astounded at the move by Google. Former U.S. ambassador to China J. Stapleton Roy, director of the Kissinger Institute on China and the United States at the Woodrow Wilson International Center for Scholars, states, "I don’t understand their calculation. I do not see how Google could have concluded that they could have faced down the Chinese on a domestic censorship issue."

Google could pay deeply for the move. China is home to over 155 million smart phone users and that number is growing rapidly. Contrary to its previous statements, the Chinese government is now moving to ban Google's Android handsets from China. It is reportedly pressuring telecoms like China Unicom to delay or scrap smart phone offerings that use Google's Android OS. This could prove a boon to Research in Motion and Apple, the latter of which has seen poor sales of its iPhone in China.

Comment from Kougar @ 2010/03/26
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Do they have this information on different areas within the United States. If you compare the cities with the highest rate of gun violence, you will find that the cities and states that restrict and even ban guns always have the highest rate of gun violence. For instance in Washington DC, which until recently had a ban on firearms, always lead the country in death by firearms even though they were banned.
Don't forget over 80% of the firearms recovered from drug violence in Mexico are traced back to the US... some figures put the number at 87%. Not only does the US buy all the drugs, but we also supply all the guns for the drug cartel wars that are currently exploding in Mexico.
Comment from jmke @ 2010/03/25
with an active army of over 3.2 million and 5 million reserves, giving the people of china guns won't change the regime or how the country is run.

in current day and age it takes an outside party to get involved to get things really shaken up; and that's not for the best either;
Comment from blackened @ 2010/03/25
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I'm not saying not having guns is the best way to go, all I'm saying is that having guns isn't a solution either. But if you want to think in black & whites... sure go ahead.
Do they have this information on different areas within the United States. If you compare the cities with the highest rate of gun violence, you will find that the cities and states that restrict and even ban guns always have the highest rate of gun violence. For instance in Washington DC, which until recently had a ban on firearms, always lead the country in death by firearms even though they were banned.
Comment from blackened @ 2010/03/25
My point was simply that every brutal regime in history started out by disarming their populous. Unarmed people are much easier to rule and are much less likely to revolt.
Comment from jmke @ 2010/03/25
nice comeback.

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your stupid!
are you sure it is "my stupid" ? Can it be somebody else's stupid too? or just mine?

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Homicide rates tend to be related to firearm ownership levels. Everything else being equal, a reduction in the percentage of households owning firearms should occasion a drop in the homicide rate
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The level of gun ownership world-wide is directly related to murder and suicide rates and specifically to the level of death by gunfire.


I'm not saying not having guns is the best way to go, all I'm saying is that having guns isn't a solution either. But if you want to think in black & whites... sure go ahead.
Comment from snogler@hotmail.com @ 2010/03/25
your stupid!
Comment from jmke @ 2010/03/25
or your kid shoots his head of. Or you shoot your neighbor who walks drunken in your backyard, or he brings he bigger gun and kills your wife and kids instead of just taking some money.

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Comment from snogler@hotmail.com @ 2010/03/25
having guns can save your life. there are a lot of bad guys out there and you can fight them off with your stick or logic.
Comment from jmke @ 2010/03/24
uhm, having guns doesn't make it safer or create a solution
Comment from blackened @ 2010/03/24
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JFYI China was already blocking many of Google's services. Would not want to live in a country with such a government. Surprised that there haven't been many revolutions... or maybe they are still to come.. a government suppressing their people never ends nicely

http://www.google.com/prc/report.html#hl=en
The problem with an unarmed populous revolting against the government is the fact that they are unarmed, it would just turn into Tienanmen Square times a billion. Thats why my government will literally have to pry my guns out of my cold dead fingers if they ban them.. Also, I love how the Chinese Communist political party's OFFICIAL newspaper claims the US is hacking China..
Comment from jmke @ 2010/03/24
JFYI China was already blocking many of Google's services. Would not want to live in a country with such a government. Surprised that there haven't been many revolutions... or maybe they are still to come.. a government suppressing their people never ends nicely

http://www.google.com/prc/report.html#hl=en
Comment from thorgal @ 2010/03/24
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This could prove a boon to Research in Motion and Apple, the latter of which has seen poor sales of its iPhone in China.
This is a common misconception. iPhone is not selling badly in China at all. What is selling badly is the chinese version of the iphone, the one lacking wifi and some other stuff, which is the only one officially allowed by China mobile. Hong Kong sells millions of "normal" iphones though, and there's a huge black circuit.