ATI HD 4770 512Mb (€89) beats 8800 GTS 640Mb (€300 once upon a time)

I fully agree, it does.

But the 8800GTS launched in November 2006. Exactly 2 & 1/2 years ago. I'd expect a midrange card like the HD 4770 to beat it today.

It only seems odd because NVIDIA hasn't kept pushing innovative new GPU designs, even the GTX 285 is just a fattened 8800GTX core with lots of tweaks.

The first "new" NVIDIA core since the 8800GTX should make a similar leap in performance that 8800 series did at the time.

uhm; how do you recon that a entry level card is not up to snuff? you're comparing entry level with high end here, ATI has been twice as fast for quite some time now, granted that the 8800 GTX survived quite long (9800 GTX+ is still going strong and directly based on that design) but when a entry level card is able to match performance of that one, something's up

what I'm trying to say: ATI HD 4770 offers more value for its money than previous generation entry/mid-range products;

7600 GT is nowhere near twice as fast as 6800 Ultra, 20-30% faster at best;
http://hwbot.org/hardware.compare.do...160_1&id=743_1
http://www.tomshardware.com/charts/g...5B2110%5D= on

what we have here IS a case where a 7600 GS would be three times as fast as 6800 Ultra

Um, no read what I typed. 7600GT to 6800 Ultra. That is midrange to high-end. Same with 6600GT to 5950 Ultra, midrange to high-end.

Is it? It required three generations of graphics cards from ATI to make it happen!


Better question is will AMD keep up this fall when NVIDIA launches a completely new design again.

when you're talking about doubling performance you're talking about products launched IN THE SAME SEGMENT

hence the 7600 GT vs 6600 GT, 7600 GT vs 8600 GT etc.
But this is not the case here; we're comparing HIGH END with ENTRY LEVEL

the correct "double in two years" partner would be:

HD 4770 compares to 8500 GT
GTS 640Mb compares to HD 4870

now if you do the math, you'll see that it is not just "DOUBLE" the performance

HD 4770 being almost twice as fast as GTS 640Mb in ~2 years time is just insane!

Yes. GPUs always double in performance every two years or so, current generation's midrange compares to last generation's high-end. As I recall the 7600GT was around as fast as a 6800GT, 6600GT around as fast as the 5950 Ultra, etc.

I think only difference is AMD is doing one better than doubling performance... then again, they have to make up for lost time with X2900 and 3870 generations... Still nice to see AMD offering incredible value.

I have to agree with Piotr: I don't see why you should be comparing with hardware from the past (including the price from the past). Maybe it's indeed only to make a point regarding how fast the hardware scene evolves?

My cheap nas I bough some time ago is also faster then the Intel Pentium 4 EE that costed 1k euro for the chip only 5 years ago....


Or the 9600 Gt (100 euro) also beats the 350 euro ATI X850XT...

how so? please do enlighten me

That's normal, isn't it ?

it was launched at €300
a €90 card launched today is faster than a €300 card launched in 2006/7

Weird title.

Last know selling price of the 8800 512 Mb (thus faster) was sub 150 euro...

And the card is like 3 years old.