Microsoft Vista SP1 not until 2009?

@ 2007/07/27
Microsoft has apparently told executives at one of the world's largest PC makers not to expect a formal release of Windows Vista SP1 -- the first major set of upgrades and bug fixes to its Vista operating system -- until 2009 at the earliest. That explains why Microsoft was so desperate to correct erroneous reports, spread by a careless team of developers at Microsoft, that a beta version of SP1 would be out last week. Microsoft now says it ''currently anticipates'' a beta of SP1 later this year. Anticipations, of course, are not always met. Especially if you're a sluggish beast like Microsoft, with thousands of developers to keep in train on a release. And this delay would have wide aftershocks.

Comment from Kougar @ 2007/07/30
n. Apple.

Defintion: 1) 40-50% gross profit margin

Antonym(s): Value
Comment from jmke @ 2007/07/30
that won't happen, Mac likes their "elite" status and to keep it, they have higher prices; if they Apple ibooks cost less than the average XP/Vista laptop, people will wonder why it is cheaper. Cheaper = worse, right?

that's what most people think. That's why Monster Cables can sell HDCP cables at $200 while the quality of that $10 cable is identical.
Comment from gdzilla @ 2007/07/30
Thats why i added this Lazy:
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Originally Posted by gdzilla View Post
(...) and Mac just needs a price-reduction
Comment from Sidney @ 2007/07/29
We will come back to this thread in 2009
I used Apple/Mac back in 1986, and you know what'd happened? We are now talking the same thing.
It ain't going to happen. Talk all you want
Comment from SuAside @ 2007/07/28
if the 2009 thing is true; that'd truly suck...

i was kinda hoping to see it Q1 2008 :P

@ Rutar: make that Linux
Comment from jmke @ 2007/07/28
unless your company has no mac compatible software. yup, that makes 99% of them out there
Comment from Rutar @ 2007/07/28
indeed, because once you go MAC you never look back
Comment from gdzilla @ 2007/07/28
I think if they kill XP before Vista SP1 is released, they will loose a lot of people to Mac / Linux.

Because Mac is allready a valid alternative for years, and linux is getting there. Linux just needs better support from the gaming industries, and Mac just needs a price-reduction
Comment from FireTech @ 2007/07/27
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Originally Posted by jmke View Post
expect low Vista sales in 2008
Agreed, the only way they'll increase Vista sales before SP1 is by killing off XP...
Comment from Sidney @ 2007/07/27
MS will admit that
Comment from jmke @ 2007/07/27
never said it would melt down Windows but it melts down their marketing schemes
Comment from Sidney @ 2007/07/27
Still, that won't affect MS sales in total because XP continues to make up the difference; MS is not losing anything just the "feeling" is hurt a little with which MS may not have anyway.

The hurts come from memory sales expectation pending Vista picking up steam. DX10 game development is taking it's time, again no incentive for MS to hurry. When all of a sudden SP1 comes out early, there will be free advertising as people all over will jump into the story.

MS is playing this game very well. Unless, Vista is so good that no one wants to buy. Now, we are talking instead of whining. We are so deep into MS's trap including the 1.4 billions Chinese, it will take an economic melt down to kill Windows
Comment from jmke @ 2007/07/27
if this is true... all I have to say is: expect low Vista sales in 2008