Editorial: Gaming laptops are a complete joke

@ 2007/07/17
THERE IS A RAGING debate between me and the rest of the world over gaming laptops. Most people think they are the hottest thing since sliced bread, I think they are about as dumb as you can get. It begs the question, if all of your friends said enemas were cool, would you get one? The concept is a good one, in theory, but falls flat in reality. The promise is to have a portable machine that plays games as well as it does all the things you want a laptop for. All the machines to date fail on both accounts, with only a nod to portability.

Comment from jmke @ 2007/07/17
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Originally Posted by Rutar View Post
my post got ignored
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not by me, just doesn't apply to me, don't need laptop for portability, don't need it for "on the plane", when I travel I tend to not way to be around a PC and enjoy holidays
Comment from Sidney @ 2007/07/17
When I worked for people, all my laptops were free (company issued) because laptops are for lazy employees who do work during the 8 hour-day. So, they have to take the work home.

Today, you don't even need to haul the laptop back and forth from work and home. We have large capacity thumb drive

Okay, I have both laptop and desktop. I use them both depending on the situation. Why? It is because I "think" I need them both. Looking to get an iPhone too
Comment from Rutar @ 2007/07/17
my post got ignored

Any halfway decent laptop will let you browse the net and play movies, but as soon as you want to game things get ugly.
Comment from Kougar @ 2007/07/17
Does your €750 system let you use it while on the road? On an airplane? While waiting at an airport for 6 hours? During and between your classes while on college campus for the entire day? It is certainly not as easy to pack and move to hotel rooms, and you still need to pack and PROTECT that monitor too. Your €750 system will never work in those scenarios.

I expect a laptop to be slower than an equivalent desktop. That is also not the point of this, just as "value" is not the point. Mobility while keeping the same functionality I wish to have in a desktop while I am on the go is the point. No cube/shuttle/qpack or similar desktop can do this.
Comment from jmke @ 2007/07/17
overclocking the E2160 has been very challenging indeed, reaching only 3ghz with a €90 CPU, what a let down and not forget that most games don't give a rats *** about the CPU, C2D OC'ed to 2.4Ghz is more than fast enough for all current games.

it would be a damn shame if your laptop couldn't run Doom 3, which is more than 3 years old now. Battlefield 2 is easy on GFX, didn't you know? http://www.madshrimps.be/?action=get...&articID=5 23

What GFX was that? 7950 GTX? No way you'll run next gen games with max details, let alone medium detail! Geforce 8800 GTX already struggles with R6 (Unreal 3 engine) at 1600x1200 noAA!
That €750 gets a €350 VGA card boost and be able to play the latest games AND still be cheaper than your laptop!

come back to me when you tried Rainbow Six Las Vegas Max detail 1600x1200 , or when Crysis and Gears of War hit the market, then we'll talk

Why exactly did you buy that laptop anyway? you don't do LANs and you don't take it to work
Comment from Gamer @ 2007/07/17
I can play DOOM 3 on my laptop you know
Check out my score's on hwbot with this laptop, it's already more than a year old, and will last for a long time still.
BF2142 on high and AA8 AF 8 on, still 60+ fps without slowdowns.
Your € 750 system will have to be overclocked to beat it
Comment from jmke @ 2007/07/17
my €750 system takes 10minutes to pack, your €1500 gaming laptop about 2minutes tops. By sacrificing 8 minutes to pack I just saved €750 AND have a faster system AND more upgradeable AND easier to service

I also was looking into swapping my desktop with a portable desktop (laptop) , but it turned out way too expensive and slower
http://www.madshrimps.be/vbulletin/f...p-deluxe-7599/

you might notice most people in that thread suggest a Cube/barebone/shuttle like PC
Comment from Kougar @ 2007/07/17
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Originally Posted by jmke View Post
hence the "low value"
We're not buying them for value. We are buying them for portability and traveling...

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Originally Posted by Rutar
The best idea is to get a small laptop with big battery life that will last several years for portable use and a desktop for gaming. Both together won't cost more than a gaming laptop over their lifespan and you get a better portable as a bonus.
Those "better portables" require integrated graphics to offer great battery life, and therefore won't play any games at all. The ultra portables also tend to cost as much and even more than all but the most premium DTR notebooks. A cheap laptop and a mid-range desktop could be had for $2k, but I'd rather have a laptop built for what I need that actually does what I want it to do. A typical laptop still doesn't get much past 3 hours battery life, which any good DTR can offer anyway.
Comment from Rutar @ 2007/07/17
The best idea is to get a small laptop with big battery life that will last several years for portable use and a desktop for gaming. Both together won't cost more than a gaming laptop over their lifespan and you get a better portable as a bonus.
Comment from jmke @ 2007/07/17
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Originally Posted by Gamer View Post
A laptop is always more expencive than a desktopsystem..
hence the "low value"
Comment from Kougar @ 2007/07/17
Of course they are more expensive, but you still won't find a portable desktop that you can toss into your backpack in 3 seconds and go. You don't need bleeding edge hardware to play games on a laptop, and therefore you can get some fairly small, light, and efficient models and game on them. I played HL2 on mine ~1920x1200 when it came out and loved it.
Comment from Gamer @ 2007/07/17
A laptop is always more expencive than a desktopsystem.
Every component is smaller and harder to produce.
I changed my desktop for a laptop, and will not switch back.
Comment from Rutar @ 2007/07/17
You can't bash the one inquirer article that is right this month.
Comment from jmke @ 2007/07/17
Case €50
PSU €70
CPU E2160 €90
Mobo €100
2gb DDR2 €100
200GB HDD €70
DVDwriter €30
7900GT €70
17" TFT €200
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€780

Laptop with smaller screen and similar HW specs
http://www1.euro.dell.com/content/pr...=dhs&cs=bedhs1
€1500

double the price... and can't be upgraded as easily and as cheap as the C2D system. Sorry but double the price of the desktop version IS NOT "dirt cheap".
Comment from Gamer @ 2007/07/17
Bull.
Almost every laptop has a 7200rpm HDD if you wish.
My upgraded Dell 9400 is about the fastest laptop you can have, and it's dirt cheap, if you look around.