Intel Conroe versus AMD AM2 benchmarked

@ 2006/05/23
We first learned of Conroe's alleged performance when our Editor-In-Chief, David Ross, managed to gain access to a set of benchmarks that showed a 2.66GHz model soundly beating an overclocked AMD Athlon FX-60 in every test. But some of us took the staggeringly impressive results with a substantial pinch of salt. After all, they were produced in strict Intel-controlled conditions with who-knows-what optimisations present. If you've not done so already, you might want to take a peek here at those numbers.

What may also surprise you is that Intel already lists the unreleased Conroe on its web site, under the official branding of Core 2 Duo. The formal release is at least a month off but we, being an inquisitive and resourceful bunch of hacks, have managed to procure a couple of Conroe samples to test in our own (unbiased) lab.
Comment from jmke @ 2006/05/24
Quote:
"I´m in love with Conroe"
"I AM2"
Comment from jmke @ 2006/05/24
Asus NF4 250GB S754 PCI-E SATA RAID GBL
ASUS P4GPL-X i915PL S478 PCIe 2xDDR GLAN 4xSATA IDE

next!
Comment from RichBa5tard @ 2006/05/24
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Originally posted by The Senile Doctor
and any one of those using a 3ghz + p4 or a 2.2 ghz+ amd should upgrade their gpu's be4 anything else
Problem is that many of those ppl still have agp based motherboards...
Comment from jmke @ 2006/05/24
you can't justify that €1000 CPU price, no way I have €200 A65 3000+ S754 still running at stock speeds, speedy enough for gaming
Comment from The Senile Doctor @ 2006/05/24
well, having to wait till 2007 is no bad thing, if the cpus then available outclass my fx53 heavily, then it would be worthwhile to buy one and I would have lasted 3 full years with my cpu, that'd be about the same as an entire human generation! That'd also mean the investment of 1000 euro's at the time wouldn't have been so bad, but knowing that I clock my fx53 at default since overclocking it to 3 ghz never meant anything for my high end gaming may get me to wait even longer...by then we'll have ANOTHER new socket
we'll just see what the gpumarket does
Comment from Gamer @ 2006/05/23
thank God I get my Merom this week

I'm happy that this is a hugh leap forward again, like AXP-A64.
Comment from jmke @ 2006/05/23
I think www.overclockers.com had a piece about the Conroe, sharing info tidbits like having to wait until well into 2007 before Conroe shipments would surpass the current P4 generation, and the first shipments going into OEM more so than into retail? well, we'll see.
Comment from Ranzy @ 2006/05/23
A lot of complaining by geeks across the globe! The few cakes baked will surely fly of the shelves though.
Comment from jmke @ 2006/05/23
problem is that Intel won't be able to make enough hot cakes to sell to all; so what happens when a product is limited in quantity and demand is high?
Comment from Ranzy @ 2006/05/23
Yeah okay guys, but you can't deny it: Conroe whoops A64's butt here, much like A64 whooped P4's butt not so long ago. And I know the cpu isn't that important these days for games, and it's been that way the past year or two, but I also know that this Conroe is gonna sell like hot cakes when it comes out...
Comment from The Senile Doctor @ 2006/05/23
and any one of those using a 3ghz + p4 or a 2.2 ghz+ amd should upgrade their gpu's be4 anything else
Comment from jmke @ 2006/05/23
gamers with S754/S939 shouldn't worry about upgrading their systems, not this year at least, maybe the next; there is not game/software app which requires a super expensive CPU to run quickly and keep the PC usuable; most people still use P4 (S478) and Athlon XP; the masses are always a few generations behind
Comment from Ranzy @ 2006/05/23
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Originally posted by The Senile Doctor
yes, but as a lot of us are gamers, it's no use skipping out any of the cpus we have for each one of these, since in current high res gaming there will be NO advantage whatsoever when you have good gpu's...
True of course, but that doesn't change the fact that the Conroe clearly wins over AMD's Athlon FX and that it is the better choice for those gamers in need of an upgrade.
Comment from jmke @ 2006/05/23
the voice of reason !
Comment from The Senile Doctor @ 2006/05/23
yes, but as a lot of us are gamers, it's no use skipping out any of the cpus we have for each one of these, since in current high res gaming there will be NO advantage whatsoever when you have good gpu's...
Comment from Ranzy @ 2006/05/23
Conroe clearly dominates here, of course it won't shine as much when the GPU is the bottleneck, that's normal, but that's not how you benchmark a processor. When you take a look at the Far Cry result it's clear how much better the Conroe performs.
As much as I love AMD, to me it's clear that Conroe is the better processor here.
Comment from jmke @ 2006/05/23
Okay so these benchmarks show that in some cases the Conroe has a nice lead, but also that the A64 has nice lead in some other areas. And when it comes to gaming, the difference between the two is only noticeable at lower resolutions when the GPU is not the bottleneck, at high resolutions & detail there is no difference between the two. In applications it is a mixed bag, multimedia encoding works much better on A64, while some raytracing benchmark give better numbers on Conroe.

It's not really what I would call "dominating" or a "clear win".