12-Way 120mm Fan Roundup

@ 2006/03/31
# Aerocool Turbine 1000
# Aerocool Turbine 2000
# Aerocool Turbine 3000
# Enermax Warp
# ichbinleise 12/1000
# Papst 4412 F/2GLL
# Papst 4412 F/2GL
# Papst 4412 F/2GL + NMT-2
# Revoltec AirGuard
# Scythe S-Flex SFF21D
# Scythe S-Flex SFF21E
# Yate Loon D12SL-12
Comment from Sidney @ 2006/03/31
If you start hearing things when there is hardly any sound ... go see a shrink. The same goes for unable to sleep at night, or can't focus at work because you are bother by slight noise.
http://www.worldwidewords.org/qa/qa-shr1.htm
If you can't hear what you boss tells you, go get your hearing test.
Comment from Sidney @ 2006/03/31
Comment from jmke @ 2006/03/31
Comment from Rutar @ 2006/03/31
I would guess nowadays you get sound meters that calculate everything for you already =O. But then, I could be wrong.
Comment from jmke @ 2006/03/31
The Loudness Scale and the Sone
As the apparent loudness of a sound is not directly proportional to the sounds loudness level (a doubling of subjective loudness results in an average increase of about 6 phons), subjective experiments have been performed in order to establish a scale on which a doubling of the number of loudness units doubles the subjective loudness, a trebling of loudness units trebles the subjective loudness, and so on.

The unit of this scale is the sone. It is defined as the loudness of a 1000Hz tone having an intensity of 40dB. Thus the sone is equal to the loudness of any sound having a loudness of 40 phons. The mathematical relationship between the two is given as;

S = 2 (P - 40)/10

or log(S) = 0.0301 (P - 40)

where P represents the loudness level in phons, and S the loudness in sones.

http://www.kemt.fei.tuke.sk/Predmety...s/index-1.html
Comment from jmke @ 2006/03/31
where does one get a SONE meter
Comment from Rutar @ 2006/03/31
it's already a lot better than most reviews on the net considering they at least tested noise and performance, explained their methods and gave some usefull information


now you need a sone meter to get full scientific pwnage (it's measures how an average person percieves the noise)


if you measure the dba, the accelero doesn't pwn the stock ATI cooler as hard as with sone because the fact the dba meter doesn't care if it's a broad humming or a high pitched whine annyos
Comment from jmke @ 2006/03/31
well it just food for thought; my roundup was far from perfect and this one gives a second opinion which can never hurt
Comment from Rutar @ 2006/03/31
the noise level is different because they took into account the frequency

the temperatures could be inside the margin of error, however as said, their test setup is inferior because it shows less differences between the fans
Comment from jmke @ 2006/03/31
there are still some things not quite right, if you look at the Turbine 1000 vs Papst at 12V

*in their test the Turbine cools better than Papst, is louder than Papst and spins slower.
* in my test the Aerocool cools less than Papst, makes less noise and spins slower.

Comment from Rutar @ 2006/03/31
The sound pressure level has the advantage of being an objective yet a handy measure of sound intensity, but it has the drawback that it is far from being an accurate measure of what is actually perceived. This is because the ear's sensitivity is strongly dependent on frequency. Indeed, whearas a sound of 1 kHz and 0 dB is already audible, you need to raise up to 37 dB to be able to hear a tone of 100 Hz. The same holds for sounds above 16 kHz.

directly from the link, they did an adjustment according to the frequency of the sound (and unless you can read German, it might have gone missing in the translation)

both the madshrimps and the other results are correct, both times a clear description is given how they were achieved
Comment from Sidney @ 2006/03/31
More nonsense from Rutar.

http://www.eie.fceia.unr.edu.ar/~acu...e/soundlev.htm

Unless that guy lives in a broadcasting studio.
Comment from jmke @ 2006/03/31
comparo time!
Comment from Rutar @ 2006/03/31
quite good actually

they explained a few things very well and the maintenance tips are good as well


Their dba readings are adjusted to the human hearing capabilities, that might explain the results from Scythe. They tried to do something like AC does with the rating in sone.


Biggest issue is, the test did not allow large discrepancies because the airflow in the case was too good and the Northwood is not taxing enough.


Still, Scythe seemed to gain the critical knowlege from their cooperation with AC that fans matter a lot. If they start supplying the the E version of their flex fan with their coolers, the competition has to be very affraid.
Comment from Sidney @ 2006/03/31
Can't believe a single data point from them.
Comment from jmke @ 2006/03/31
no mention of ambient noise and they measured 11dBA for the Scythe "D"... uh?
Comment from jmke @ 2006/03/31
they used this device for dBA measurements: http://www.atp-messtechnik.de/messte...-264-plus.html

€2000+ - range of 15-140dB.


They state they are not in a special noise room, but still the noise readings list <20dBA values.. wtf?


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Originally posted by easypanic
copycats
reading results from tables is not too user friendly imho
Comment from easypanic @ 2006/03/31
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