AMD released their Athlon 64 X2 and it was good. The enthusiast community clamored for more. They wanted a lower speed grade X2 that would still pack a punch, and go head to head with Intel's lower priced dual CPU packaged Pentium D series. Many thought AMD made a mistake by not offering this grade, but of course lines must be converted, and it makes sense to project numbers, and product the CPUs that will bring in higher ASPs. We feel the launch today of the Athlon 64 X2 3800+ is perhaps brought about by so many requests, but also a result of AMD having ramped up dual core production higher enough to begin supplying higher volume lower cost parts.