you remember back in November of 2004, Tul announced a PowerColor X700 XT. The card was equipped with SCS (Silent Cooling System) mechanism instead of regular fan. In December, Tul decided to release X700 PRO based card which also sported SCS. April of 2005 brings us PowerColor Bravo X700. Suggested retail price is pretty competitive and weighs just about $160 with tax. ATI based RV410 cards can be found in quite a few flavors, i.e. different VPU clocks and / or memory type -- it all depends on the Add-In-Board manufacturer and most importantly customer needs.